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Really extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not explain ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I included that factor since when I had to locate a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I had to go with every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to find one that had not been sludged up truly severely.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to speak about a few concerns of these vans, but I I'm plainly not mosting likely to appear and state one is better than the other. So if that's what you're searching for, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are a few of the differences in between these 2 brand names? Bernie: Well, they're basically the exact same lorry.
Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines then. Let's speak regarding engine and in fact simply to define that the version years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you recognize, I suggest, these vans have actually been around for a lengthy time.
And, you know, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around considering that, you understand, around that time also. Given that 2000, I mean, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s.
So, you understand, Fords, and a lot of them feature the Triton V8. There's a great deal of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with blow to these engines, because they didn't have adequate threading in the ignition system, which triggered troubles. And commonly that would happen when you might be in a 15 traveler bus increasing a hill with a tons of individuals and all of an abrupt boom, an ignition system bulges and you're stranded.
So if you're getting anything from possibly 08 and newer, you're not mosting likely to have that sort of trigger plug problems. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leak, they'll establish coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold typically you need to change the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to state in their favour, because I'm discussing problems, it's an extra innovative engine. Overhead cam, so you're getting even more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a simpler style with push rods.
They're just really respectable, resilient, solid engines. You understand, being a van, of program, you understand, doing any kind of solution on them is a lot more complex since you've reached remove that cover and get involved in servicing in strange methods. Things like spark plugs last a horrible lengthy time, so they don't require to be changed very commonly.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't believe of if we've ever before done a Chevy, yet Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a long period of time, like way back before the 2000 version year.
So, you know, that's still readily available. I would certainly not advise a diesel unless you're transporting remarkably heavy loads. Diesels require to be functioned. That's actually the bottom line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I don't know, I'm simply going to state a plumbing professional and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would be a really good use having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it looks like the diesels are, they seem to have much less troubles in vans than they carry out in the trucks. Probably since they aren't worked so hard, yet when things occur, they're really pricey to repair. We've got a lot of video clips and information about diesels, specifically the Fords.
You really need to think twice concerning obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so healthy for function, make certain that you're suitable the engine that you're getting for the objective that you're endeavouring to fulfill. Bernie: Yeah, specifically. And I will certainly claim, Chevy is practically restricted to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas consuming engine.
If you're, and again, we're simply chatting about kind of a straight, normal cargo van right here. Look at your purpose, your use, just how much weight you're transporting and that'll help you make the choice.
Something that we have not spoken about here is what type of van. These vans are, and it relies on what version, they're offered ever from half heap to one bunch chassis and in fact several of the cutaway vans are really a lot more long lasting, like, you know, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Normally the drive trains, you recognize, I locate them to be quite much equal. Mark: So allow's discuss guiding and suspension. Exactly how do they contrast? Bernie: You understand, I'm going to give the edge to Ford on this set. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's less steering link entailed in a Chevy. There are much less components to put on out. They do a sphere joints that wear out. So do Chevy's, yet it seems, and the Chevy's probably last a little longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the guiding linkage is much less challenging, so there's much less components and much less things to break.
The experience in a Ford is possibly a bit extra truck like but I don't recognize if you 'd really ever before actually discovered a difference in between the 2. It seems like their elements are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
Somehow, they seem to last for one brake task. And after that a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be changed. So I assume on a Ford and you can expect to invest a little bit even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to swerve back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I imply, the gliding doors were crap, you recognize, really severely developed. Actually, I would claim that if you are even looking at something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their trucks as a whole actually took a jump ahead in high quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a great deal of things where the brakes as an example would not last long in any way.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I indicate, I 'd say they're both most likely quite much equivalent in top quality, fit and finish, you recognize, some of the passenger vans, of course we'll have nicer visits than the cargo vans. I can't state that one of them stands out to me a bit even more than the other.
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